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But these could easily be regular tan chinos and it to my eyes looks like it's out of the Ivy tradition (which I believe is CM not SW, correct?) Maybe it's that the model is fit, attractive, and wearing clothes that fit that make it work for me

Berhanu agrees that theyre really comfortable without rolling down when youre moving around. And as with the Torrid pull-ons closer to the top of this list, there are five different inseams to choose from: 25, 27, 29, 31, and 33 inches

You didn't spend all that time sourcing, inspecting, and photographing just to put an item on a single marketplace and cross your fingers

Stretch factor 1/3. It is true to size so pick your regular size

Ive worn it in pouring rain in summer without the lining and stayed dry, and in the snow and wind in winter with the lining and have stayed warm